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Greg WibblyWobbly
04-23-2010, 02:34 AM
Here is the GAF version of Wibster Wonders.

Lady Stableforth
04-23-2010, 06:18 AM
okay here is my first one, why wasn't mr. humphries told that he would be sharing a room with a perfect stranger? i mean she just came in and got into bed? if it were me i would have slept in another room.:shock:

BasilBJr
04-23-2010, 09:07 AM
Because only Rumbold would have known, and maybe the idea of Mr Humphries sharing a bed with a woman was just too incomprehensible to consider.

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-24-2010, 04:42 AM
:lol:


Did you ever notice how you hear the "Teasling Song" reprised throughout the series ?

BasilBJr
04-24-2010, 07:45 AM
:lol:


Did you ever notice how you hear the "Teasling Song" reprised throughout the series ?

Mr Moulterd's accordian playing repetoire was rather limited.

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-25-2010, 05:53 AM
You know how in the first season of AYBS? when the scene's change you can hear the AYBS? theme. Well after the eppy "A Teaseling We Will Go" you can hear bits of the teasel song through the rest of the series.

Lady Stableforth
04-25-2010, 05:20 PM
i wondered why mr. moultered didn't come to mr. humphries defense when malcolm was threatening him, he was standing a few feet away??
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larsen525
04-25-2010, 07:31 PM
i wondered why mr. moultered didn't come to mr. humphries defense when malcolm was threatening him, he was standing a few feet away??
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:water:

- E.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-25-2010, 08:37 PM
You know how in the first season of AYBS? when the scene's change you can hear the AYBS? theme. Well after the eppy "A Teaseling We Will Go" you can hear bits of the teasel song through the rest of the series.

Yes, and it was a good motif to use. I wish they had not used the main theme at all, but made the teasling song the theme. :yes: The whole series is basically the staff teasling through the golden years of life.

Sir Richard Ryan
04-25-2010, 09:21 PM
You ever notice about the thread title saying GRAVE and Favor? There are a few cast members still around. Kind of morbid...:lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-26-2010, 02:20 AM
You ever notice about the thread title saying GRAVE and Favor? There are a few cast members still around. Kind of morbid...:lol:

OMG !!! I didn't take notice to that. The "C" is too damned close to the "V" on the keyboard. I'll fix it. :oops:

There now I have no idea what you're talking about ... :lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-26-2010, 02:21 AM
i wondered why mr. moultered didn't come to mr. humphries defense when malcolm was threatening him, he was standing a few feet away??
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Wouldn't be a "manly" thing to do.

Lady Stableforth
04-26-2010, 06:46 AM
:smackwrist::ear:

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-26-2010, 08:55 PM
i wondered why mr. moultered didn't come to mr. humphries defense when malcolm was threatening him, he was standing a few feet away??
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I wonder if Mr. Moulterd wouldn't have minded if Mr. Humphries was scared away from his daughter!:yes:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-27-2010, 02:21 AM
At least he knew she was safe with Humphries.

Sienna
04-27-2010, 04:48 AM
Yeah, it's hard to imagine someone you'd be safer with than with Mr Humphries... as a woman, anyway :lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-27-2010, 07:23 PM
You could always share makeup secrets and talk about Mr. Walpole.

Sienna
04-28-2010, 07:39 AM
I bet Mr Humphries knows more about make-up than I do. :lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-29-2010, 02:22 AM
:lol:

sonosun
04-29-2010, 09:50 PM
Yeah, it's hard to imagine someone you'd be safer with than with Mr Humphries... as a woman, anyway :lol:

He wasn't so safe with Miss Brahms or the lady who wanted to pitch as much woo as he could give her behind the Bandstand.:lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-30-2010, 02:37 AM
He wasn't so safe with Miss Brahms or the lady who wanted to pitch as much woo as he could give her behind the Bandstand.:lol:

Those were only done to keep people from talking. :yes:

sonosun
04-30-2010, 08:51 PM
Those were only done to keep people from talking. :yes:

I know Greg,but they kept talking anyway.:)

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-01-2010, 05:38 AM
:lol:

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-01-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm still wondering how long was Rumbold in charge of Millstone Manor before the rest of the cast arrived. Was it years? Months? Just a few days? When the staff was told at the will reading that Rumbold was the manager of the Manor, they reacted like they hadn't had contact with him in a long time?!?!?!?

Sienna
05-02-2010, 05:34 AM
That is a rather good question Cpt. Joe :?

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-02-2010, 05:55 AM
I was thinking it was only days and because of YMG's death. :shrug:

Lady Stableforth
05-03-2010, 10:57 AM
Another one is who was paying the salaries of the original staff at MillStone Manor? Was it YMG? And exactly what was Miss LoveLock's position, i mean did she work for a living?:brow:

larsen525
05-03-2010, 04:48 PM
And exactly what was Miss LoveLock's position?:brow:

I'm sure she knew quite a few positions...er, I mean, had quite a few positions. ;)

- E.

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-04-2010, 02:35 AM
:emotlol:

Lady Stableforth
05-04-2010, 06:35 AM
:cheekydevil:

larsen525
05-04-2010, 02:29 PM
:cheekydevil:


:slochead: : "True."

- E.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-06-2010, 06:17 PM
Another one is who was paying the salaries of the original staff at MillStone Manor? Was it YMG? And exactly what was Miss LoveLock's position, i mean did she work for a living?:brow:

I 'm guessing YMG paid the salary of the Manor manager. The Manor staff were likely paid out of the Manor profits. I'm also guessing Millstone Manor was decently run before YMG's death under a manager other than Rumbold. I think it was a money making enterprise to varying degrees. My guess is that after Mr. Grace died, the manager left because he wasn't in the Will, Rumbold was sent to step in and hold it together, but the staff quit fearing a future under Rumbold.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-06-2010, 06:19 PM
I would consider being Mr. Grace's personal assistant work that was very hard. (Even if Mr. Grace wasn't.)

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-07-2010, 02:34 AM
I would consider being Mr. Grace's personal assistant work that was very hard. (Even if Mr. Grace wasn't.)

:emotlol:

BasilBJr
05-07-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm still wondering how long was Rumbold in charge of Millstone Manor before the rest of the cast arrived. Was it years? Months? Just a few days? When the staff was told at the will reading that Rumbold was the manager of the Manor, they reacted like they hadn't had contact with him in a long time?!?!?!?

Rumbold was probably in charge of the Manor from the time the store closed. There is no indication of how long that was, but it must have been for at least a couple of weeks. The retrospective episode "The Best of Are You Being Served" occured during that time. In it Mrs. Humphries said that Mr Humphries would need income now that the store was closed.

BasilBJr
05-07-2010, 10:06 AM
Another one is who was paying the salaries of the original staff at MillStone Manor? Was it YMG? And exactly what was Miss LoveLock's position, i mean did she work for a living?:brow:

Miss Lovelock initially YMGs nurse, a sucessor to Patricia Astley and Vivienne Johnson. This was infered when it was mentioned that she was with Mr Grace during the scuba diving accident that claimed his life. But she also had secretarial skills, as evidenced by Mr Grace having her take things down in the middle of the night, and by leaving day to day business decisions in her care. So she was probably something in the nature of a personal assistant.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-09-2010, 09:27 PM
I never thought about it before, but doesn't it seem odd that Miss Lovelock was so posh and high class, yet was only a personal assistant? [No offense to personal assistants out there, by the way!] It's just that she seemed to have enough advantages of high-class breeding and privilige to be a player in her own right.

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-10-2010, 02:30 AM
She was a player and smart as well. She probably made good money and was jet setted all over the world for not doing a whole hell of alot.

Lady Stableforth
05-10-2010, 07:53 AM
i had another one - it seems that Ms. Brahms and everyone else didn't believe Mr. Humphries when he was helping Mavis cut wood for the furnace so that there would be enough hot water for baths and tea. he should have been more specific saying that he was sawing wood in half. Was Ms. Brahms some kind of sex maniac by that time?

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-11-2010, 02:26 AM
i had another one - it seems that Ms. Brahms and everyone else didn't believe Mr. Humphries when he was helping Mavis cut wood for the furnace so that there would be enough hot water for baths and tea. he should have been more specific saying that he was sawing wood in half. Was Ms. Brahms some kind of sex maniac by that time?

GAF was just carrying on that innuendo type humour that made AYBS? a hit.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-20-2010, 08:55 PM
i had another one - it seems that Ms. Brahms and everyone else didn't believe Mr. Humphries when he was helping Mavis cut wood for the furnace so that there would be enough hot water for baths and tea. he should have been more specific saying that he was sawing wood in half. Was Ms. Brahms some kind of sex maniac by that time?

Mr. Humphries was incredulous about the need to cut wood for the boiler at first. Remember he first tried to turn on the hot water by flipping a switch in the kitchen.

I took Ms. Brahms' assumption it being a sexual inuendo because I doubt she would have know the boiler was a wood burner either. And Mr. Humphries sex life was always a topic of speculation.

Because of the verbal sparring between her and Miss Lovelock, most of Ms. Brahms' lines did revolve around sex. I don't think she was obsessed about sex; just bitter.

sonosun
05-20-2010, 09:44 PM
Nice response Joe.

Lady Stableforth
05-21-2010, 07:06 AM
Mr. Humphries was incredulous about the need to cut wood for the boiler at first. Remember he first tried to turn on the hot water by flipping a switch in the kitchen.

I took Ms. Brahms' assumption it being a sexual inuendo because I doubt she would have know the boiler was a wood burner either. And Mr. Humphries sex life was always a topic of speculation.

Because of the verbal sparring between her and Miss Lovelock, most of Ms. Brahms' lines did revolve around sex. I don't think she was obsessed about sex; just bitter.
thanks i guess your right, i could tell ms. brahms and mrs. slocombe were jealous of miss lovelock when they first saw her come into the lawyers office.

BasilBJr
05-21-2010, 10:04 AM
Much of the sexual innuendo revolving around Mr Humphries had to do with Mavis' descriptions. What would be a simple explanation to a simple country girl would be taken as sexual innuendo to a "sophisticated" Londoner

Lady Stableforth
05-21-2010, 12:04 PM
there should have been a better explanation as to why mavis was angry with her ex-boyfriend Malcolm. the way she turned away to ignore him when he entered the kitchen. as for malcolm i would have made him pay for the broken window.

Sienna
05-21-2010, 12:49 PM
there should have been a better explanation as to why mavis was angry with her ex-boyfriend Malcolm. the way she turned away to ignore him when he entered the kitchen. as for malcolm i would have made him pay for the broken window.

Maybe she was angry because he stood in the way of her potential relationship with Mr Humphries.

Lady Stableforth
05-21-2010, 01:44 PM
maybe but mr. humphries was too old for her. and besides as he said they were just pals sharing a bed :brow:.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
05-21-2010, 08:12 PM
there should have been a better explanation as to why mavis was angry with her ex-boyfriend Malcolm. the way she turned away to ignore him when he entered the kitchen. as for malcolm i would have made him pay for the broken window.

I agree. It seemed very much like they once had something going and then she just brushed him off. It was Mavis who stopped going to their note-rock.

I wonder what the proper rock-etiquette is for dumping someone by note-under-rock? Maybe Malcolm was justified in throwing the rock through the window if she failed to keep her end of the note-under-rock conversation up?!? Remember, this was before twitter!

Huh, I think this is the one time I'll have to side with Malcolm!

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-22-2010, 04:30 AM
I agree. It seemed very much like they once had something going and then she just brushed him off. It was Mavis who stopped going to their note-rock.

I wonder what the proper rock-etiquette is for dumping someone by note-under-rock? Maybe Malcolm was justified in throwing the rock through the window if she failed to keep her end of the note-under-rock conversation up?!? Remember, this was before twitter!

Huh, I think this is the one time I'll have to side with Malcolm!


When it's put like that CJ, it al makes sense. :yes: :lol: :lol:
Love the "before twitter" :emotlol:

BasilBJr
05-22-2010, 08:18 AM
there should have been a better explanation as to why mavis was angry with her ex-boyfriend Malcolm. the way she turned away to ignore him when he entered the kitchen. as for malcolm i would have made him pay for the broken window.

Mr Humphries and Mavis once had a discussion about all the things that set Malcolm off: ringing in his ears, bad day on the tractor, raining, too much to drink. Maybe Mavis wanted someone who wasn't such a hot headed thug.

BasilBJr
05-22-2010, 08:33 AM
i had another one - it seems that Ms. Brahms and everyone else didn't believe Mr. Humphries when he was helping Mavis cut wood for the furnace so that there would be enough hot water for baths and tea. he should have been more specific saying that he was sawing wood in half. Was Ms. Brahms some kind of sex maniac by that time?

I don't think Miss Brahms was a sex maniac. I think if anything she was ambivalent about sex. In AYBS she bragged about how she could get what she wanted from men without giving anything in return ".... but they don't get it." was a frequent refrain of hers. And then there was Mr Humphries' statement in "The Best of Are You Being Served" "...both Mr Lucas and Mr Spooner only wanted one thing, but Miss Brahms wouldn't give it to either of them." She was probably contemptous of those she THOUGHT were giving it away, like Miss Belfridge, Miss Lovelock, and Mavis. But on the other hand, she did try to get friendly with Mr Spooner when he was going to be a Pop Star. And she also had the long term affair with the married man who owned and arcade. Before he got hit by the recession and then by his wife, he was probably well off and bought her goodies. Then there was her comment about not offering what she had unless they had some lolly, and her preference for older men because they had more to offer. One could say that the stakes would have to be pretty high before she was interested. Hardly the views of a sex maniac.

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-23-2010, 05:17 AM
So then can we say then that Miss Brahms was a "d**k tease" and a "gold digger".

BasilBJr
05-23-2010, 04:26 PM
So then can we say then that Miss Brahms was a "d**k tease" and a "gold digger".

I would say that that would be more acurate.

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-24-2010, 02:46 AM
:lol: Gotta love our Shirley !!

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-30-2010, 01:33 PM
In the eppy "A Teasling We Will Go" when Humphries is roddin out the pipe and Mr. Moulterd passes and remarks "You have a natural talent for that."
Is Moulterd remarking about the motion that Humphries is making or the fact that he's bent over with his arse in the air with a rod plunging in and out between his legs ?

Assistant13
05-30-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm gonna go with the second one. I hadn't thought of it that way until you brought it up, but that's how I'm going to interpret it now.

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-31-2010, 05:05 AM
:lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
05-31-2010, 05:06 AM
What would have been funnier is if he kept slapping himself on the arse while saying to himself "you like that huh ??? You like that don't you ?!?!?!"

Sienna
05-31-2010, 12:42 PM
What would have been funnier is if he kept slapping himself on the arse while saying to himself "you like that huh ??? You like that don't you ?!?!?!"

But it would have been hard to find an innocent explanation for that. Self-cleaning jokes and all that. :lol:

Greg WibblyWobbly
06-01-2010, 02:25 AM
:lol:

BasilBJr
06-01-2010, 10:37 AM
In the eppy "A Teasling We Will Go" when Humphries is roddin out the pipe and Mr. Moulterd passes and remarks "You have a natural talent for that."
Is Moulterd remarking about the motion that Humphries is making or the fact that he's bent over with his arse in the air with a rod plunging in and out between his legs ?

I think the humor from this comes from when Mavis said it, it sounded more like rutting.

BasilBJr
07-20-2010, 07:15 PM
I was wondering what happened to Paddington Bear? All throughout AYBS right up until "The Best of AYBS" Mr Humphries had a Paddington. Yet in G&F he said he's only ever shared his bed with Wilfred the Teddy bear and is shown with a regular teddy. Why the switch?

Greg WibblyWobbly
07-21-2010, 02:21 AM
I wonder if "trademark" had anything to do with it ?

larsen525
07-21-2010, 04:49 AM
I was wondering what happened to Paddington Bear? All throughout AYBS right up until "The Best of AYBS" Mr Humphries had a Paddington. Yet in G&F he said he's only ever shared his bed with Wilfred the Teddy bear and is shown with a regular teddy. Why the switch?

:humphries01: : "I don't sleep with Paddington Bear anymore. His wellies were so cold."

- E.

Greg WibblyWobbly
07-22-2010, 02:28 AM
:lol:

Assistant 134
08-03-2010, 11:10 AM
I always wondered why the staff still used titles to address each other. They were in less formal situations now. I guess they so use to it, it came natural.

Lady Stableforth
08-03-2010, 01:59 PM
i understand why they had to live together in order to not just make up their pension but to save money but couldn't one of them afford a tv or radio for their rooms?

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-04-2010, 02:45 AM
I always wondered why the staff still used titles to address each other. They were in less formal situations now. I guess they so use to it, it came natural.

They're British. (nuff said)

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-04-2010, 02:47 AM
i understand why they had to live together in order to not just make up their pension but to save money but couldn't one of them afford a tv or radio for their rooms?

Maybe they didn't get reception way out there. You have a good point though MJ. Back when they worked at the store you heard mention of them watching telly but you never did hear about watching it at the manor did you ?

Lady Stableforth
08-04-2010, 06:12 AM
no you never did and what about reading? the house never came with any books?:?

BasilBJr
08-04-2010, 08:37 AM
I've been wondering why they continuted to think of themselves as Staff when in fact they were the owners of the Manor. If I could enter the TV world I would say to them all, "You are not just the Staff, you are the owners. For all intents and purposes, YOU are all Young Mr Grace." From that perspective, Mrs Slocombe could have come at Cecil from a different perspective. Instead of hiding as Mrs Moulterd, she could have confronted Cecil in her battle-axe mode, which could have gone something like this:
"Yes, Cecil, it's me, Betty. Remember me? we met during an air raid. All my years of hard work have paid off and me and my collegues own and run this Manor. And you are going to have to fork out quite a few quid if you even think of buying this place." Then she would guzzle a gin and tonic right in fron to him. Then she would continue "Would you like something to eat? Perhaps some buns, with slightly salted butter from Sainsburys."

Assistant 134
08-04-2010, 10:10 AM
I've been wondering why they continuted to think of themselves as Staff when in fact they were the owners of the Manor. If I could enter the TV world I would say to them all, "You are not just the Staff, you are the owners. For all intents and purposes, YOU are all Young Mr Grace." From that perspective, Mrs Slocombe could have come at Cecil from a different perspective. Instead of hiding as Mrs Moulterd, she could have confronted Cecil in her battle-axe mode, which could have gone something like this:
"Yes, Cecil, it's me, Betty. Remember me? we met during an air raid. All my years of hard work have paid off and me and my collegues own and run this Manor. And you are going to have to fork out quite a few quid if you even think of buying this place." Then she would guzzle a gin and tonic right in fron to him. Then she would continue "Would you like something to eat? Perhaps some buns, with slightly salted butter from Sainsburys."

I like this. I agree. Mrs. Slocombe did become weak as water when her ex arrived. Mentioning that he'd gone up in the world and she'd gone down. Remember Miss Lovelock called her "a millionarie tramp" when she was dressed as Mrs. Moulterd.

Lady Stableforth
08-05-2010, 07:04 AM
yes that was strange of her to want to hide from him. she should have done exactly what BasilBJr. described.

Assistant 134
08-05-2010, 11:14 AM
If I was Mrs. Slocombe, I would be proud to walk up to an ex and say that I owned a beautiful manor house like Millstone.

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-06-2010, 07:36 PM
Yes but then we never would have had an eppy like "The Return of Mr. Slocombe."

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-08-2010, 05:08 PM
I just watched this one the other night. Other than this episode, Mrs. Slocombe was never one to hide in the shadows. Mollie was great at playing a woman on the warpath!

I wonder if they would have been better off having Mr. Slocombe come to buy the place for top dollar (I mean pound), having Mrs. Slocombe at full boil wanting to tear him apart for leaving her, and have the rest of the staff trying to keep Cecil in the dark to her identity and her away long enough to keep him alive to get the sale finalized? A whole episode with Mrs. Slocombe charging around the Manor in search for blood!

In the end, Mr. Slocombe, confronted by Mrs. Slocombe wielding a butterchurn handle and crying "I'll give you Sainsbury's!", would refuse to buy and let her have another dime of his money, keeping the Manor under the staff's control.

You can even have had a scene where Cecil sees Tiddles and comments, "What a tired, worn out old pussy that is! It kind of reminds me of... ...nah, it couldn't be."

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-09-2010, 02:33 AM
I just watched this one the other night. Other than this episode, Mrs. Slocombe was never one to hide in the shadows. Mollie was great at playing a woman on the warpath!

I wonder if they would have been better off having Mr. Slocombe come to buy the place for top dollar (I mean pound), having Mrs. Slocombe at full boil wanting to tear him apart for leaving her, and have the rest of the staff trying to keep Cecil in the dark to her identity and her away long enough to keep him alive to get the sale finalized? A whole episode with Mrs. Slocombe charging around the Manor in search for blood!

In the end, Mr. Slocombe, confronted by Mrs. Slocombe wielding a butterchurn handle and crying "I'll give you Sainsbury's!", would refuse to buy and let her have another dime of his money, keeping the Manor under the staff's control.

You can even have had a scene where Cecil sees Tiddles and comments, "What a tired, worn out old pussy that is! It kind of reminds me of... ...nah, it couldn't be."

http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbsup.gif

Lady Stableforth
08-09-2010, 11:07 AM
i would love to have seen Mrs. Slocombe confront her husband after all she always accused men like captain peacock were weak as water.

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-10-2010, 02:36 AM
i would love to have seen Mrs. Slocombe confront her husband after all she always accused men like captain peacock were weak as water.

:yes:

Lady Stableforth
08-16-2010, 09:56 AM
Also i was wondering how a whole system could come crashing down on Mr. Rumbold? what kind of toilet system did that hotel have?

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-16-2010, 06:22 PM
Also i was wondering how a whole system could come crashing down on Mr. Rumbold? what kind of toilet system did that hotel have?

The kind like in this Fr. Ted clip, with a gravity-feed tank up the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F72QMET6RDk
"When pullin' the chain, watch out for the brain!"

BasilBJr
08-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Isn't it rather ironic that at the Manor Peacock balked at being Head Waiter, yet years prior in "Takeover" he was indignant that he was not Head Waiter, claiming that he had the dignity and the bearing.

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-23-2010, 04:56 PM
Isn't it rather ironic that at the Manor Peacock balked at being Head Waiter, yet years prior in "Takeover" he was indignant that he was not Head Waiter, claiming that he had the dignity and the bearing.


:slochead: "True"

frankdicer
08-23-2010, 11:46 PM
Isn't it rather ironic that at the Manor Peacock balked at being Head Waiter, yet years prior in "Takeover" he was indignant that he was not Head Waiter, claiming that he had the dignity and the bearing.

Yes but in GAF he was bucking for manager and in Takeover head waiter was the
highest position.

Cat_Lover
08-24-2010, 01:07 AM
Good point.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-26-2010, 07:19 PM
I can't believe I've never noticed that! Good catch!

Perhaps he was so traumatized by Mr. Lucas as head waiter that he blocked the term "head waiter" out of his mind?

Lady Stableforth
03-21-2011, 08:44 AM
i was watching the episode of Grace & Favour where they entertain a group of delegates from Mongolia and when Ms. Brahms is reciting a poem it looks like she knows the language because she is trying to tell the interpreter the part of the poem how does she know what she is saying?

BasilBJr
03-21-2011, 09:48 AM
I think Miss Brahms understood that Miss Long Wee was translating, even if she did understand the language. I think Miss Brahms was objecting to the tone of the words. Plus I think she was already miffed at the fact that she was doing Portia, yet the head of delegation though she was giving him a Porsche instead of a BMW.

Lady Stableforth
03-21-2011, 11:00 AM
is that a famous poem?

BasilBJr
03-21-2011, 04:18 PM
It was a character doing a soliloquy from Shakespear's play "The Merchant of Venice"

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
03-21-2011, 06:09 PM
I always took it that Miss Brahms got mad because the entertainment was supposed to be her reciting Shakespeare in English, after all, they can read Shakespeare in Mongolian anytime, but this is their only chance to hear Shakespeare spoken in the beauty of the English language. So from Miss Brahms' viewpoint, the translator should have "shut her cakehole." And I am unanimous in her opinion.

Greg WibblyWobbly
03-22-2011, 02:41 AM
I always took it that Miss Brahms got mad because the entertainment was supposed to be her reciting Shakespeare in English, after all, they can read Shakespeare in Mongolian anytime, but this is their only chance to hear Shakespeare spoken in the beauty of the English language. So from Miss Brahms' viewpoint, the translator should have "shut her cakehole." And I am unanimous in her opinion.

:yes:

BasilBJr
04-07-2011, 09:47 PM
I always took it that Miss Brahms got mad because the entertainment was supposed to be her reciting Shakespeare in English, after all, they can read Shakespeare in Mongolian anytime, but this is their only chance to hear Shakespeare spoken in the beauty of the English language. So from Miss Brahms' viewpoint, the translator should have "shut her cakehole." And I am unanimous in her opinion.

Not disagreeing, but could also be that just the fact that translating was going on was throwing Miss Brahms off. And probably English and Mongolian don't translate very well into each other's language, as evidence by the "..falls like a gentle rain from Heaven." line, when the guests opened their umbrellas. It probably translated into something like "It's going to start raining.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-07-2011, 11:04 PM
Good point. I can easily believe the translator interruptions were throwing her off. Also, the umbrella thing and the question about the Porsche also would have thrown her off.

That reminds me of another pet peeve from that scene. That they all opened the umbrellas was a stupid gag from the writers. Even if the translator mistranslated the line into "It's going to start raining", they are inside! Why are they carrying umbrellas inside?!? Why would they think it would actually rain indoors?!?

Mongolia is nowhere near England. This group had to have had money to get there even if the dung had fallen well in their favor. To be that wealthy, they all couldn't have been that stupid.

I cringe anytime any TV show does an episode where they bring in a foreigner or group of foreigners just so they can create misunderstandings. It's a lame trick to elicit laughs at a different culture. In almost every case, they are incorrectly portrayed as backwards or inferior.

Sorry for the rant. I really hate this episode.

Lady Stableforth
04-08-2011, 11:03 AM
i didn't like Mavis's ex-boyfriend Malcolm threatening Mr. Humphries, she never explained why she and Malcolm broke up, you can see she didn't want to see him when he first came thru the kitchen. If it were me i would have saved the rock he threw thru the window with the notes he left for the local police to investigate.

sonosun
04-08-2011, 09:10 PM
i didn't like Mavis's ex-boyfriend Malcolm threatening Mr. Humphries, she never explained why she and Malcolm broke up, you can see she didn't want to see him when he first came thru the kitchen. If it were me i would have saved the rock he threw thru the window with the notes he left for the local police to investigate.

Malcolm was more of a spurned suitor than an ex anything. He never made it up to bat.Let alone to first base. :yes:

BasilBJr
04-09-2011, 07:47 AM
Malcolm was more of a spurned suitor than an ex anything. He never made it up to bat.Let alone to first base. :yes:

I would imagine that Mavis knew Malcolm a long time, but only went out with him a few times when she discovered what a hot head he was. The relationship was mostly in his mind.

BasilBJr
04-09-2011, 07:51 AM
Also i was wondering how a whole system could come crashing down on Mr. Rumbold? what kind of toilet system did that hotel have?

It was probably one of those antique flush systems that Mr Tebbs used to sell. I would guess that he was the one who sold him to the Manor. It would make sense that YMG would buy from his own company; he probably got a VERY favorable discount.

Lily the Tea Girl
04-18-2011, 08:34 PM
When did Mr. Rumbold get his leather outfit? Has he been into biking for years or is this a midlife crisis thing?

Greg WibblyWobbly
04-19-2011, 02:48 AM
When did Mr. Rumbold get his leather outfit? Has he been into biking for years or is this a midlife crisis thing?

I think he's had it for a while and was into kinky stuff and that's why his wife left him. The spank marks were getting to be too much of a hassle to explain away to family and friends.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-19-2011, 08:50 AM
I think he's had it for a while and was into kinky stuff and that's why his wife left him. The spank marks were getting to be too much of a hassle to explain away to family and friends.


That's too much information this early in the morning! :o

Lily: "Knuckles" Rumbold in his youth had quite a past before Grace Brothers. Whether that was before the war or after I do not know. But I guess after his wife left him, I think he bought new leathers to relive that youth. Greg might be right in that the mid-life crisis might have drove her away to a more stable Mr. Prentiss.

sonosun
04-19-2011, 08:57 AM
That's too much information this early in the morning! :o

Lily: "Knuckles" Rumbold in his youth had quite a past before Grace Brothers. Whether that was before the war or after I do not know. But I guess after his wife left him, I think he bought new leathers to relive that youth. Greg might be right in that the mid-life crisis might have drove her away to a more stable Mr. Prentiss.

You say she went to live with Mr Prentiss in a stable? I live quite near a stable at Millstone Manor myself. :rumboldthink:

BasilBJr
04-19-2011, 10:23 AM
That's too much information this early in the morning! :o

Lily: "Knuckles" Rumbold in his youth had quite a past before Grace Brothers. Whether that was before the war or after I do not know. But I guess after his wife left him, I think he bought new leathers to relive that youth. Greg might be right in that the mid-life crisis might have drove her away to a more stable Mr. Prentiss.


Or it could have been just the opposite; Rumbold may have been the stable one, and Mr Prentice was the more spontaneous one. After all, he did offer Mr Humphries some unusal attachments for his Black and Decker, maybe he offered some to Mrs Rumbold as well. Maybe Rumbold's leathers were part of vain attempt to win her back.

anglophile31
04-19-2011, 05:06 PM
Or it could have been just the opposite; Rumbold may have been the stable one, and Mr Prentice was the more spontaneous one. After all, he did offer Mr Humphries some unusal attachments for his Black and Decker, maybe he offered some to Mrs Rumbold as well. Maybe Rumbold's leathers were part of vain attempt to win her back.

I like this explanation. :yes:

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-19-2011, 06:50 PM
Good call. I agree :thumbup:

Beppo's
04-20-2011, 09:35 PM
"Knuckles" Rumbold in his youth had quite a past before Grace Brothers. Whether that was before the war or after I do not know.

It was after the war. From the Grace & Favour episode about Capt Peacock finding the gun:
"Would you by any chance be the same "Knuckles" Rumbold, leader of a roller-skating gang suspected of stealing two grapefruit and a Cox's Orange Pippin from Romford High Street in 1947? And it seems the North Acton Public Library is still awaiting the return of "Lolita", "Fanny Hill" and "Fly Fishing" by J. R. Hartley..."

Cox's Orange Pippin is a popular English apple variety, and "Fly Fishing" by J. R. Hartley is a reference to an 80's British commercial for the Yellow Pages. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj3B0mR8LAg)

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-21-2011, 08:17 AM
Good catch! Thanks, Beppo. Have another drink on me.:beerchug:

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
04-21-2011, 06:24 PM
I was wondering was it accidental or intentional that Mr. Moulterd looks like the lovechild of Harpo and Chico Marx?

sonosun
04-21-2011, 11:04 PM
I was wondering was it accidental or intentional that Mr. Moulterd looks like the lovechild of Harpo and Chico Marx?


:emotlol:

Aidan Phoenix
06-26-2011, 09:09 PM
Do you realise, that if Slocombe bought Tiddles in 1969, by 1992 that cat would be twenty-three years old? In cat years (and no, it's not seven years for every one year) she would be the equivalent of a 109 year old woman. British cats live a lot longer than American cats, but I should think that Slocombe probably had another pussy before then. Or do you think that's the same Tiddles?

BasilBJr
06-26-2011, 09:14 PM
I think Mrs Slocombe had several pussies, all named Tiddles. I'll but that the pussy she had when Cecil left her was named Tiddles

Greg WibblyWobbly
06-27-2011, 02:09 AM
It also went from being a male to female.

Red Shadow
06-27-2011, 12:00 PM
It also went from being a male to female.

Well that explains it. At least when it comes to humans, females usually live longer than males. So by changing from a male cat to a female cat, Tiddles probably added-on a few years of life expectancy.

Aidan Phoenix
06-27-2011, 03:30 PM
:humphappy: Tiddles is much happier since she's had the operation!

Greg WibblyWobbly
06-28-2011, 02:42 AM
Well that explains it. At least when it comes to humans, females usually live longer than males. So by changing from a male cat to a female cat, Tiddles probably added-on a few years of life expectancy.

:humphappy: Tiddles is much happier since she's had the operation!

:emotlol:

Lady Stableforth
06-28-2011, 08:54 AM
i still couldn't believe that they were banned from the Public bar, i mean it was Malcolm who started shoving Mr. Humphries and Mavis, his dad and himself should have been banned. I also wonder why no one woke up Mr. Moulterd?

Aidan Phoenix
06-28-2011, 11:07 PM
I can. Malcolm and his dad were natives. The staff were from London. It was sort of a Deliverance thing in a way. Betcha Malcolm even had a ewe he called Mavis on the weekends.

Greg WibblyWobbly
06-30-2011, 02:19 AM
I can. Malcolm and his dad were natives. The staff were from London. It was sort of a Deliverance thing in a way. Betcha Malcolm even had a ewe he called Mavis on the weekends.

More like "get off me Pa .... yer smashing me smokes !!"

sonosun
07-01-2011, 11:37 PM
:shakehead: :lol:

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
07-02-2011, 03:22 PM
I think Mrs Slocombe had several pussies, all named Tiddles. I'll but that the pussy she had when Cecil left her was named Tiddles

I think after each Tiddles was through, Mrs. Slocombe took some time, had a few more drinks, and eventually decided she needed to have another Tiddles.

Greg WibblyWobbly
07-03-2011, 06:33 AM
:lol:

BasilBJr
08-06-2011, 08:47 AM
In "The Trial of the Century" episode, why did they get so upset when Sir Robert said "Hang the bird in the cellar."? They knew full well that England doesn't have a death penalty. In the country, they might not bother with tax disks for cars, but they are not about to go hanging people, especially in the vicinity of the Royal Neighbor.

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-07-2011, 05:34 AM
I think that was the whole point. Slocombe thought she was going to be hanged. I mean if you can bribe the court with a pheasant then anything goes in the country.
:lol:

Lady Stableforth
08-09-2011, 06:20 AM
i also had a hard time believing that ms. Lovelock would be able to take someone so tall and heavy as mr. rumbold, she must have a had a side car to go with her motorcycle?

sonosun
08-09-2011, 03:37 PM
Motorcycles are able to transport heavy loads. I used to see all manner of freight on motorcycles in Sunny S.E. asia.Even familys of five . Live pigs and poultry and enormous loads of firewood.Most of those were Honda 50's and 110's .
Rumbold on a bike,behind Miss Lovelock is not unimaginable at all. Rumbold behind Mr Humphries is another story.

Xymers
08-09-2011, 06:51 PM
Motorcycles are able to transport heavy loads. I used to see all manner of freight on motorcycles in Sunny S.E. asia.Even familys of five . Live pigs and poultry and enormous loads of firewood.Most of those were Honda 50's and 110's .
Rumbold on a bike,behind Miss Lovelock is not unimaginable at all. Rumbold behind Mr Humphries is another story.
:lol:

Aidan Phoenix
08-09-2011, 09:50 PM
Rumbold behind Mr Humphries is another story.
Especially with all that black studded leather. Mm-hmm! I can see it all now...
Rumbold: I am not sitting behind you, Humphries! As your superior I demand that you let me drive.
Humphries: We're not in the store anymore, bitch. Now get in the bitch seat where you belong. Bitch. :D

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-10-2011, 02:27 AM
:lol:

Lucas The Tucas
08-10-2011, 06:00 AM
:o

Lady Stableforth
08-10-2011, 06:15 AM
it was funny how ms. brahms said that mr. rumbold was wearing a whole cow, she should talk, she wore leathers as well in the episode - No Sale

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-10-2011, 01:38 PM
Yeah, but she only needed a sheep's worth. Covering Rumbold nearly did in the species!

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-10-2011, 01:41 PM
i also had a hard time believing that ms. Lovelock would be able to take someone so tall and heavy as mr. rumbold, she must have a had a side car to go with her motorcycle?

I could easily see Rumbold driving and Jessica in back, too. Who knows, maybe Rumbold had his own bike? There was just no need to show it as the joke was his leathers.

cpl.er...Capt. Joe
08-10-2011, 01:43 PM
In retrospect, they misses a great opportunity in not having Rumbold go through a post-divorce mid-life crisis on Grace and Favor. It would have made a much more interesting storyline if the staff had taken him in after he had fallen on hard times.

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-11-2011, 02:10 AM
:yes:

gracegirl1974
08-11-2011, 09:28 AM
In retrospect, they misses a great opportunity in not having Rumbold go through a post-divorce mid-life crisis on Grace and Favor. It would have made a much more interesting storyline if the staff had taken him in after he had fallen on hard times. :yes:

BasilBJr
08-30-2011, 08:49 PM
At one point or another Mr Thorpe, Miss Lovelock and Miss Littlewood all mad reference to Young Mr Grace. Could it be presumed that they were at least somewhat familiar with Old Mr Grace?

Greg WibblyWobbly
08-31-2011, 02:37 AM
I don't remember them mentioning Old Mr. Grace.

Aidan Phoenix
08-31-2011, 09:11 PM
I imagine he didn't get about much anymore.

sonosun
08-31-2011, 10:22 PM
I don't remember them mentioning Old Mr. Grace.

They didn't want to upset their stomachs.:yes:

Greg WibblyWobbly
09-02-2011, 02:43 AM
:lol:

BasilBJr
09-02-2011, 09:34 AM
I don't remember them mentioning Old Mr. Grace.

They didn't, it's pure speculation. If they kept refering to "Young", does it not stand to reason that they would have known about "Old"?

Greg WibblyWobbly
09-03-2011, 02:14 AM
I apologize Basil, I didn't understand the statement.:oops:
I think it was part in the writers knew what a disaster they had with "Old". YMG was loved by the fans so they probably decided just to keep with that character.

MarkSentMe
10-14-2011, 10:58 AM
Motorcycles are able to transport heavy loads. I used to see all manner of freight on motorcycles in Sunny S.E. asia.Even familys of five . Live pigs and poultry and enormous loads of firewood.Most of those were Honda 50's and 110's .
Rumbold on a bike,behind Miss Lovelock is not unimaginable at all. Rumbold behind Mr Humphries is another story.


OOOoohhhh...I especially loved the motorcycles transporting a stack of 5 or 6 propane tanks on the back of a small motorcycle in Korea!!

MarkSentMe
10-14-2011, 11:00 AM
Watched Episode 5 of G&F...where Miss Lovelock made Mrs. Slocombe cry. As soon as I get that Time Machine up and running...I'm heading out there to crack her in the jaw!

MarkSentMe
10-14-2011, 03:28 PM
Might have to hit her in her eye as well...I'm just in the mood!! :lol:

Aidan Phoenix
10-14-2011, 10:10 PM
Nobody puts Betty Baby in a corner. *runs*

Greg WibblyWobbly
10-15-2011, 06:05 AM
Grroooaaannnnnn ..... :roll:

MarkSentMe
11-20-2011, 10:33 AM
How much did Sainsbury's pay for that shameless plug? Oh, my word! Mrs. Slocombe must have said "Sainsbury's" like 30 times in that episode!!

gracegirl1974
11-20-2011, 07:15 PM
How much did Sainsbury's pay for that shameless plug? Oh, my word! Mrs. Slocombe must have said "Sainsbury's" like 30 times in that episode!! :yes:

Greg WibblyWobbly
11-21-2011, 02:40 AM
I second the :yes:

BasilBJr
11-24-2011, 08:16 PM
In the beginnng of "Peacock finds the Gun." there were several mentions of chewing gum left behind by Mr Conklin's tour group. If most of them couldn't chew, how could they have had chewing gum?

MarkSentMe
11-24-2011, 08:22 PM
In the beginnng of "Peacock finds the Gun." there were several mentions of chewing gum left behind by Mr Conklin's tour group. If most of them couldn't chew, how could they have had chewing gum?

Feen-A-Mint??

Aidan Phoenix
11-24-2011, 09:34 PM
There are chewing gum brands made for those who have dentures. My grandmother used to chew Freedent because it didn't stick to her dentures. I imagine it did stick to other things, though.

Greg WibblyWobbly
11-25-2011, 02:19 AM
:yes:

sonosun
11-25-2011, 10:28 AM
In the beginnng of "Peacock finds the Gun." there were several mentions of chewing gum left behind by Mr Conklin's tour group. If most of them couldn't chew, how could they have had chewing gum?

It's supposed to be a joke :yes:
I only recognise it as a joke, but not a funny one. :roll:

BasilBJr
11-30-2011, 10:56 AM
There are chewing gum brands made for those who have dentures. My grandmother used to chew Freedent because it didn't stick to her dentures. I imagine it did stick to other things, though.

"Won't stick to your dentures, but will stick to your pussy."

MarkSentMe
11-30-2011, 01:02 PM
"Won't stick to your dentures, but will stick to your pussy."

That would explain the matted fur!

sonosun
11-30-2011, 03:07 PM
You are all Nuts. :lol:

MarkSentMe
11-30-2011, 04:29 PM
Nuts won't stick to a pussy or cause matted fur, they just roll off!

sonosun
11-30-2011, 08:01 PM
:lol:

I hope the Tom doesn't read that.

Greg WibblyWobbly
12-01-2011, 02:13 AM
:shock:

BasilBJr
12-10-2011, 09:29 AM
I am curious as to why Mrs Slocombe and Miss Brahms were suddenly worried about Mr Rumbold hitting on them. When had he ever showed the slightest interest in that? I can understand about Peacock, but the only time Rumbold ever showed any interest in anyone was when Mrs S was voicing the 21 year old girl with a 40 inch bust. Usually anytime one of the ladies exposed themselves he told them to put it away.

Greg WibblyWobbly
12-11-2011, 05:02 AM
I am curious as to why Mrs Slocombe and Miss Brahms were suddenly worried about Mr Rumbold hitting on them. When had he ever showed the slightest interest in that? I can understand about Peacock, but the only time Rumbold ever showed any interest in anyone was when Mrs S was voicing the 21 year old girl with a 40 inch bust. Usually anytime one of the ladies exposed themselves he told them to put it away.

True :yes:

Lady Stableforth
12-20-2011, 02:26 PM
also why did they have to gather in the lawyers office only to be told their pension fund had been invested? i mean to know that YMG took their hard earned money and just used it for his own benefit.

BasilBJr
12-20-2011, 06:02 PM
also why did they have to gather in the lawyers office only to be told their pension fund had been invested? i mean to know that YMG took their hard earned money and just used it for his own benefit.


That all falls under probate law.

MarkSentMe
12-20-2011, 07:44 PM
also why did they have to gather in the lawyers office only to be told their pension fund had been invested? i mean to know that YMG took their hard earned money and just used it for his own benefit.

They could have been mailed off a letter to that fact and then there would not have been a G&F. It just furthered the screwing of the staff...come to the reading of the will (insert "booby-prize" trumpet notes)...and for your consolation prize: A 12th century old manor, equipped with Moulterds A & B, a herd of chickens and a pack of pigs, a BFF (large furnace) to be stoked every few hours, a mummified pussy in a wall, a bunged up toilet pipe, and plenty of various other back-breaking work for the rest of your lives...

Aidan Phoenix
12-20-2011, 09:20 PM
Do you realise, were AYBS? and G&F real, the staff would be in their eighties and nineties by now? Moulterd would be chasing Betty in his wheelchair, Betty would be chasing Claybourne with her zimmer frame, and Claybourne would be fending her off with his cane. Stephen and Cuthbert would be out of their minds and Shirley would be wishing she'd found a different retirement home. With their luck they'd all be at Bayview, dealing with Diana, Tom, and Harvey.

Greg WibblyWobbly
12-21-2011, 02:48 AM
:lol:

BasilBJr
12-21-2011, 06:47 AM
Do you realise, were AYBS? and G&F real, the staff would be in their eighties and nineties by now? Moulterd would be chasing Betty in his wheelchair, Betty would be chasing Claybourne with her zimmer frame, and Claybourne would be fending her off with his cane. Stephen and Cuthbert would be out of their minds and Shirley would be wishing she'd found a different retirement home. With their luck they'd all be at Bayview, dealing with Diana, Tom, and Harvey.


Now Mr Grainger has measured most of them for sets of wings telling them it would ride up with wear.

MarkSentMe
12-21-2011, 09:33 AM
Do you realise, were AYBS? and G&F real, the staff would be in their eighties and nineties by now? Moulterd would be chasing Betty in his wheelchair, Betty would be chasing Claybourne with her zimmer frame, and Claybourne would be fending her off with his cane. Stephen and Cuthbert would be out of their minds and Shirley would be wishing she'd found a different retirement home. With their luck they'd all be at Bayview, dealing with Diana, Tom, and Harvey.

And poor Miss Lovelock...hopefully she high-tailed it long ago

Greg WibblyWobbly
12-22-2011, 02:33 AM
Now Mr Grainger has measured most of them for sets of wings telling them it would ride up with wear.

:( :yes:

And poor Miss Lovelock...hopefully she high-tailed it long ago

They should have her walking around the old folks home looking exactly like she did in 1992 and the staff hating her for it every minute.

MarkSentMe
12-23-2011, 03:30 PM
Now Mr Grainger has measured most of them for sets of wings telling them it would ride up with wear.


I was watching Christmas Crackers on the big screen in class the other day during lunch. One of the students came in and watched with me. I had all to do to hold it together telling her,"That actor is gone. She's gone..." :(

Greg WibblyWobbly
12-24-2011, 05:31 AM
:(

Lady Stableforth
12-30-2011, 08:08 AM
gone but not forgotten!:angel:

gracegirl1974
01-02-2012, 12:37 AM
gone but not forgotten!:angel: :yes: