Miss Brahms

[Miss Brahms]

I was wondering today why everyone considered her frumpy on this show, she was in her 40s at this time and working on a farm. Did everyone expect her to dress up as though she was on Dynasty. Also I prefered her as a light blonde, or blonde, not with gray hair. :shock:

[sonosun]

I think they purposely made her hair grey so she would fit in with the rest of the cast as an older person.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I never understood in the first season, why Miss Brahms and Slocombe wore their dress shoes to go out in the barn yard ????

[Miss Brahms]

I agree totally, That was kinda of head scratching wasn't it.

[sonosun]

why Miss Brahms and Slocombe wore their dress shoes

The dress shoes were part of their normal attire. They wore them to work at Grace Brothers after all.

[Miss Brahms]

It jus drove me bonkers because she was still a very beautiful woman and they made her out to be like an Ethel Mertz. :lol:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Well if the Miss Brahms from Millstone Manor asked me out to dinner today... I'd jump at it. I think she was and still is today a very beautiful woman !!!! :wink:

[Miss Brahms]

I agree totally. She still is a beautiful classy lady.

[frankdicer]

I was wondering today why everyone considered her frumpy on this show, she was in her 40s at this time and working on a farm. Did everyone expect her to dress up as though she was on Dynasty. Also I prefered her as a light blonde, or blonde, not with gray hair. :shock:


I thought that odd as well, seeing as how Mrs. Slocombe(Mollie Sugden) was 50 when AYBS started, 70 for AYBSA(GaF).....Must have been poetic license to make Ms. Brahms appear older in order to fit in with the retirees, seeing how she was so much younger than the rest(almost 20 years younger)

[frankdicer]

....she(Ms. Brahms) was in her 40s ....... :


I thought that odd as well, seeing as how Mrs. Slocombe(Mollie Sugden) was 50 when AYBS started, 70 for AYBSA(GaF).....Must have been poetic license to make Ms. Brahms appear older in order to fit in with the retirees, seeing how she was so much younger than the rest(almost 20 years younger)

[Miss Brahms]

let's face it she was closer in age to Mavis and Lovelock, but they made her look almost as old as Mrs. Sloxombe who was 25 years older than her.

[Old Mr. Grace]

Miss Brahms must have done something right. After all, she was in her 40's and was able to retire while she was still young. I'll probably work until I drop . . . oops, I just dropped.

[Zircon]

By my calculations, Miss Brahms (the character not the poster) would have been middle forties, during the series. To me, she looks like a woman in her middle forties. I can't honestly say I ever watch the episodes and think, "Bit frumpy, there, Wendy ..."

As to the dress shoes thing - for me, it was perfect for both characters. They'd come to a country manor hotel, expecting a pleasant evening of fine dining (cue the takeaway tandoori and chips). Mrs Slocombe's experience as a land-girl was a long time back. I'm pretty sure neither character would have thought to pack a pair of good stout lace-ups, let alone some wellies.

The only question mark in my mind was the premise. Pensions pay out according to the length of time you pay into them (in theory), so the whole 'equal partners' thing made no sense. And of course, only Captain Peacock and Mrs Slocombe were of retirement age. These nits, naturally, I will readily discard, given that they gave us two seasons worth of "Grace and Favour"!

[sonosun]

Writers do have license to fit the things they want into the plot. Which makes the characters all being retired at various ages perfectly fine.

[Zircon]

Oh, no argument here, sonosun. And frankly, if any producer wants to put John Inman et al on another stage for me, I'll buy whatever they're selling!

It's an unfortunate facet of my nature that I think things through too much; which is where the nit-picking comes in. I'd have preferred to have the small discrepancies explained away, as is usually possible with a line or so of dialogue. As it is, I fill in the blanks as I watch. In my head. Zircon's head is a swirly and frenetic place to be!

[sonosun]

if any producer wants to put John Inman et al on another stage for me, I'll buy whatever they're selling!


Amen Bruvver Zircon!

[Zircon]

Amen Bruvver Zircon!

Hoozah! Though technically, that would be Sister-Zircon. Not that it matters in the slightest ...

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Nope, at Grace Brothers it was "Bruvver Slocombe" so here it's "Bruvver Zircon". :lol:

[sonosun]

Hoozah! Though technically, that would be Sister-Zircon. Not that it matters in the slightest ...

You'd best watch out around the Packing Department.They debag the new juniors you know. :wink:

[Zircon]

Nope, at Grace Brothers it was "Bruvver Slocombe" so here it's "Bruvver Zircon". :lol:


Ah yes, the penny drops ... apologies to sonosun.

As for the packing department -- well, they can try to debag me if they like ... but they'll have quite a trip. I'm nowhere near London and the store, I'm in Great Tender, way off in the West Country. And I am armed with buns!

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

:lol2: :lol2:

[sonosun]

And I am armed with buns!

What an odd picture that paints in my mind. :lol:

[lovepink]

I always like Miss Brahms as the Junior.

[Miss Brahms]

I think she actually fit in. Being the youngest on the set and on the show must not have been easy. And as we know they were a close knit group. I would have killed to be on that show.

[Miss Brahms]

Another thinh I did not get was why did they have her ahave an affair with a married man?

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Another thinh I did not get was why did they have her ahave an affair with a married man?

I didn't get that either Miss Brahms.... I think it cheapened the whole "Brahms" character. We knew she was feisty and a bit of a flirt but she always appeared to be somewhat wholesome in AYBS?. I thought that was a very bad idea with the married man myself....

[sonosun]

I thought that was a very bad idea with the married man

We've all been in love and no matter what we really were in love. No matter the circumstances.We really can't judge especially since the writers didn't really get into it on the show.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I thought that was a very bad idea with the married man

We've all been in love and no matter what we really were in love. No matter the circumstances.We really can't judge especially since the writers didn't really get into it on the show.

You're right Sonosun... so here it goes.....
Amen Bruvver Sonosun !!!!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[Miss Brahms]

You get an AMEN from me as well. It seems that almost no matter what they do you almost always love your favorite characters.

[worldtraveler]

Has anyone seen Miss Brahms on East Enders?


:) WT

[Miss Brahms]

I do , I live in Seattle and we have a PBS station that runs it on Tuesday and Thursday nites and repeats those on Saturday afternoon. I love Wendy on EE her character is hard as nails but loves her family and friends. Some people consider Pauline (Wendy's character) to be a grumpy old person, but I think her character has had a hard life.

[dazzlestar14]

Personally, I could care less how old she was, what she wore, or what colour her hair was. She was still an awesome actress with great talent. Her character was still as funny as ever, and the show would not have been the same without her. :D

[Miss Brahms]

:D

You get a BIG AMEN to that. Even on AYBS she had an amazing talent.

[dazzlestar14]

Yay!

I got an Amen!! :D
I also loved how Wendy could say her line so cooly as if she were saying it without a script. Her endless wit helped make the show go on as long as it did. Well, the others actors helped out a little too.

[Miss Brahms]

When I watched my first episode Wendy was my favorite from the first scene I saw her in. It was just something about the way she delivered her lines that just cracked me up. The same is said for Lucas as well.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

One of my fav lines of Miss Brahms from Grace and Favour was the "Association of the Preservations of Petrified Pussies" one !!!!:lol2:

[dazzlestar14]

Haha, that one was hilarious!

But one of my favourites was when she would tell off Miss.Lovelock. She had a talent for telling people off, and I'm glad she didn't lose it.

[Miss Brahms]

I do not know if anyone else has noticed this but on one episode Mrs. Slocombe conments on Miss Brahms cooking, Brahms starts crying and Captain Peacock says "your doing very well Miss Brahms" in which she replies Thank You Captain Peacock" Do you guys think they were at Gace Brothers a bit too long. :shrug: :mrgreen:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I do not know if anyone else has noticed this but on one episode Mrs. Slocombe conments on Miss Brahms cooking, Brahms starts crying and Captain Peacock says "your doing very well Miss Brahms" in which she replies Thank You Captain Peacock" Do you guys think they were at Gace Brothers a bit too long. :shrug: :mrgreen:

You mean for her calling him Captain Peacock ??? :shrug: They will call him that till the day he dies.

[Miss Brahms]

No. The YOU have done very well part. And she answered like they used to do to Mr. Grace. Thank you Captain Peacock- they used to say Thank you Mr. Grace.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I just chalk it up to manners ???? :shrug:

[Miss Brahms]

:eek:

Maybe it was just me then. LOL :o

[Miss Brahms]

I think my fave episode with Miss Brahms had to be the petrified pussy episode. i love when their bed are rising up. As a server I'm tempted to say that they ride up with wear. :D

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I think my fave episode with Miss Brahms had to be the petrified pussy episode. i love when their bed are rising up. As a server I'm tempted to say that they ride up with wear. :D
:lol2:

[Miss Brahms]

:D
I love the facts that she is now able to insult her former seniors. in the first episode they were talking of the second war and she commend on how Peacock wa a dessert rat. I am glad to see she has lost none of her former attitude. :D

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

In the "Gun" eppy, I wonder who she was impersonating behind the bar when she was talking funny and tapping her hands together ??? :shrug:

[Zircon]

In the "Gun" eppy, I wonder who she was impersonating behind the bar when she was talking funny and tapping her hands together ??? :shrug:

Prince Charles. Was a pretty good impression, too. No idea about the accuracy of the reference, though.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

In the "Gun" eppy, I wonder who she was impersonating behind the bar when she was talking funny and tapping her hands together ??? :shrug:

Prince Charles. Was a pretty good impression, too. No idea about the accuracy of the reference, though.

Thank Zircon !!!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[frankdicer]

In the "Gun" eppy, I wonder who she was impersonating behind the bar when she was talking funny and tapping her hands together ??? :shrug:

Prince Charles. Was a pretty good impression, too. No idea about the accuracy of the reference, though.

Thank Zircon !!!!

THANK YOU, I always wondered that too.

[Miss Whimsey]

So that's who she's doing! :lol: I never got that bit. Thanks!

Miss Whimsey

[dazzlestar14]

Wow, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was confused when they got to that part of the scene. I don't know how they expected us to know that, lol.

Thanks Zircon!

[DuranFan]

Prince Charles?? Does he really sound like that? :?

[Miss Brahms]

:D

O
I think it was great that Wendy was doing both EE and AYBSA? I still say that Miss Brahms is my favorite Wendy role.

[Zircon]

Prince Charles?? Does he really sound like that? :?

Not usually so coherent. It's the genes, you know ...



ps Simon le Bon's looking jowelly, these days. Nice version of "Save a Prayer" at Paris Live8, though. Took me back ...

[Miss Brahms]

:D

I like the fact that she was still a team player. She was always getting dirty to get the job done. Unlike Miss Lovelock who only helped out occasionly.

[DuranFan]

ps Simon le Bon's looking jowelly, these days. Nice version of "Save a Prayer" at Paris Live8, though. Took me back ...

Did you see when they played "Wild Boys" ? That was the best song they performed at Live 8 -- it really got the crowd going. Simon's looking HOT!! Jowelly ... pffft! :evil:

[DuranFan]

... and now back to Miss. Brahams ... :oops:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

... and now back to Miss. Brahams ... :oops:

I love her !!!!!:kiss:

[frankdicer]

... and now back to Miss. Brahams ... :oops:

I love her !!!!!:kiss:

Yeah? well then, get in line with the rest of us!!!! :lol:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

... and now back to Miss. Brahams ... :oops:

I love her !!!!!:kiss:

Yeah? well then, get in line with the rest of us!!!! :lol:
:lol2: :lol2:

[Miss Brahms]

:D

[dazzlestar14]

I can't say I want her in that way, lol, but I'd love to be her friend! :D

[frankdicer]

I can't say I want her in that way, lol, but I'd love to be her friend! :D


Hmm, I wonder what's meant by "in that way". ????? hmmmmm

[dazzlestar14]

When I said "in that way", I meant in the form of a romantic relationship. Just thought I would clear it up for you. :|

[frankdicer]

When I said "in that way", I meant in the form of a romantic relationship. Just thought I would clear it up for you. :|

Well, remember there are many different definitions of Love....
many fractured subtle differences...
Just as the song said, "Love is a many splintered thing" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dazzlestar14]

Ahh, you've confused me.....again. :?

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

OK gal and guys.... :wink:

[dazzlestar14]

All in all, an excellent actress with a great sense of humour!
Who also just celebrated her birthday! :mrgreen: