Mash vs Harman

[Assistant 134]

To makeup for not including Mash and Harmon in the last poll, I've created this poll for just Mash and Harmon.

Let's put 'em in the ring and 'ave 'em duke it out. Vote for your favorite and tell why. :x

[Assistant 134]

My vote goes to Mr. Harmon. Until I started watching AYBS? last year, I never knew about Mr. Mash.

[DuranFan]

Never liked Mash as much as I liked Harmon 8)

[Jeff Humphries]

I like them both, they did a good job for the show

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Hated Harman, always like Mash. Just widhed he could have stayed on the show through out the whole run !!!! :cry:

[Lucas The Tucas]

I like-um both...

But, Mr. Mash gets my vote... :D

He wasn't one of the sales or bosses..
He was a little rough on the edge and always took-up for the working person... :mrgreen:
Mr. Mash didn't mind conflict with a boss...
:P And he liked the ladies... :wink: :wink:

Lucas

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

You go Bruvver Lucas !!!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[wolf_fire186]

Mash will do in a pinch, a very small pinch. There was just something about him that rubbed me the wrong way. If you ask me, he got TOO excited when he washed down the naked mannequins!

[missmacinthorpe]

Harman for me; Mash seems too nasty/ill-tempered.

Miss Jackson

[Little Boy Blue]

personally i like mr. harmon better cus he had more of a sense of humor then mr. mash. plus the fact that he is more well mannered

[sonosun]

Mr Harman was in the first episodes that I saw. It was a couple of years before I saw Mr Mash. I thought he was the new guy. A little rude and a little crude, maybe,but he was always true to himself.

[inside_leg]

I voted for Harmon, he's priceless. I think he had some of the best jokes of the whole series.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Sorry Mr. Mash !!! At least I love Ya buddy !!!! :(

[Old Mr. Grace]

It's a touch choice but I voted for Mr. Harman.

By the way, I heard that Arthur English published an autobiography shortly before he died. Has anyone read it? :shrug:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

It's a touch choice but I voted for Mr. Harman.

By the way, I heard that Arthur English published an autobiography shortly before he died. Has anyone read it? :shrug:

No but if anyone has an info on it it would be very much appreciated !!!!... it's one that I would read !!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[sonosun]

I just Googled this up for you Greg.

http://www.trashfiction.co.uk/comedy_english_cover.html

I had another lnk Oh here it ishttp://www.tvheaven.ca/aybs.htm

Just go to cast page and scroll down to see a couple of pics from the book and a pic of the cover.

I just went to Amazon and they have three copies that are used. From 70 dollars to eighty something.

[Pamela]

oooh! what a tough question....I've picked Mash, I always liked him the best, but I've been warming to Harmon for a while now!

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I just Googled this up for you Greg.

http://www.trashfiction.co.uk/comedy_english_cover.html

I had another lnk Oh here it ishttp://www.tvheaven.ca/aybs.htm

Just go to cast page and scroll down to see a couple of pics from the book and a pic of the cover.

I just went to Amazon and they have three copies that are used. From 70 dollars to eighty something.

Thanks for the links Sonosun !!! Pretty neat !! I also see there is a Jeremy Lloyd book out !!!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[frankdicer]

I started out a Harmon-ite, but the last couple times I've watched the
whole series, I kinda favored Mash.....going with MASH!

rationale:
Harmon seemed to get a break in that he was INCLUDED in many of the
privy discussions/machinations whilst Mash was always left out.
And while Mr Harmon's speak malfunctions were always funny, they were
a bit out of character with the (I'm gonna use the S word here) Sophistication
he brought to the part. He was just a little to smart to be playing that dumb.

[Goldie]

My vote if for Mr. Mash.. :dance01: He rocks!!

[inside_leg]

Thanks for the links sonosun. I was able to find the title of the book and a picture of the cover, but I was unable to find it for sale, so thanks.

I always found Mr. Mash funny, but I think that when Harmon joined the show the writing for that character got better. Both characters were good in that they always rose above the rest of the higher class characters. But it seemed that Mash would always do it with a rasberry or crude remark (which is always funny) and that he just seemed to be an instigator (also very funny). But the Harmon character was just smarter comedy. He always rose above the rest of the staff with cunning wit, and went about it with this sort of innocence whereas Mash always looked for trouble.

[Vicar]

Mr. Harmon!

[mr. metaxis]

Much as I loved Mr. Harmon's malapropisms ("The khazi's bunged up with sentiment!") I'm afraid he's no match for the wonderful Mr. Mash. A great example of 1970's British shop-floor militantism with his trusty union rule-book.

It's all out when The Bruvvers say so!

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Much as I loved Mr. Harmon's malapropisms ("The khazi's bunged up with sentiment!") I'm afraid he's no match for the wonderful Mr. Mash. A great example of 1970's British shop-floor militantism with his trusty union rule-book.

It's all out when The Bruvvers say so!

I agree !!!!! Welcome to the board Mr. Metaxis !!!!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

[Lucas The Tucas]

And Mr. Mash pulls closer to a tie.

:mrgreen: Lucas

[sonosun]

And Mr. Mash pulls closer to a tie

Lucas, Mr Mash always wore a tie.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

You're being cheeky again Sonosun !!!! :lol:

[Dick]

Got to give it up for my man Beverly. Sure, half the time he talks like a cockney with a penchant for ad-libs and extra marbles in his mouth, but at least he doesn't spend creepy time in the lifts with mannequins or risk getting the wind up from bolting down his shepard's pie.

And what's up with Mash's "rosy" cheeks? Why, he looks like this guy: :oops:

Dick

[sonosun]

Harmon

H-A-R-M-A-N Is the correct spelling. Thank You!!This one's for Tiddles. :wink:

[Vicar]

Harmon

H-A-R-M-A-N Is the correct spelling. Thank You!!


No no no no....Thank YOU. I've been typing it one way and going back and editing it the other.

:lol:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

And what's up with Mash's "rosy" cheeks? Why, he looks like this guy: :oops:

Dick

Take notice on Grace and Favour.... Morris has rosey cheeks and when the staff dresses up as the farm hands... they all have really red ceeks. maybe it's an English country thing ?????? :shrug:

[Assistant 134]

Too much "having it off" will do that to a person's cheeks

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Too much "having it off" will do that to a person's cheeks

And I just thought I blushed easily ???? :shrug:

[hamot]

Beverly Harmon is a bit more of a smart aleck. That's why I prefered him.

He also did many more episodes than Mr. Mash. Mr. Mash was also a little more raunchy.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

One thing is true..... Mash knew his place whereas Harman loved to push the envelope. Harman was also favored in the Grace's eyes whereas Mash wasn't.

[Vicar]

Beverly Harmon is a bit more of a smart aleck. That's why I prefered him.

He also did many more episodes than Mr. Mash. Mr. Mash was also a little more raunchy.

:shake:
I so agree! I think that's why I liked Harman too.

For me, those "rauchy" bits usually take away the "wit" from the scene.

[lovepink]

I voted for Herman

[Very Young Mr Grace]

My favorite line from Mr. Mash ---

"I've come to stick this up Mrs. Slocombe's corsets!!" LOL !!

As for Mr. Harmon, I found him very useful. He single-handedly saved the store in "Takeover" and always found a way to get in an idea or two here and there. He also swiped Mr. Grainger's resignation letter from Young Mr. Grace's "boney little hand" to save Grainger's job. LOL

I like them both, but Harmon got vote. :mrgreen:

[spoonme]

I grew up with the Harman episodes so maybe it was just overkill but I really enjoy Mr Mash he was a bit more scruffy and rough. But the Mr Harman character was written to blend in more with the cast and got more to do but I voted for Mr Mash - a tough call.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I grew up with the Harman episodes so maybe it was just overkill but I really enjoy Mr Mash he was a bit more scruffy and rough. But the Mr Harman character was written to blend in more with the cast and got more to do but I voted for Mr Mash - a tough call.

Good for you Spoonme !!! I'm a Mash fan myself !!!

[frankdicer]

I grew up with the Harman episodes so maybe it was just overkill but I really enjoy Mr Mash he was a bit more scruffy and rough. But the Mr Harman character was written to blend in more with the cast and got more to do but I voted for Mr Mash - a tough call.

Mash: Raucous, raunchy, rude

Harman: uneducated but street smart and smooth

both: FUNNY!!!



Anyone notice Harman has assistants but I don't recall any helpers for Mash.
Except behind the curtains and off camera.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

One time I remember Mash having help and that was with the "His and Her's" Display. Other than that, you're right FD.

[LovelyMissShirleyBrahms]

I have to say that I vote for Mr. Harmon. He's was more funnier but there are times that I don't understand him. LOL! 8)

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I want to bludgeon Harman to death when he sings in the beginning of "By Appointment" !!!

"... you need to hold someone what loves you..." *BAM* *BAM*

[Lucas The Tucas]

Dear Greg

WHO LOVES YA-BABY ?

:lol: :lol:

Lucas :mrgreen:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Dear Greg

WHO LOVES YA-BABY ?

:lol: :lol:

Lucas :mrgreen:

:lol2: Not Mr. Harman right at this moment !!! :lol2:

[Ronald]

Ik liked both Mr. Mash and Mr. Harman. But my vote went to Mr. Harman.

In the episode Fifty years on, Peacock and Lucas asked Harman to pay something for the birthday-present for Mrs. Slocombe.

Peacock: "It's Mrs. Slocombes birthday. We are all putting in a pound. What do you say?"

Harman: "I'm not allowed on the floor during working hours (probably the only time Harman remembered this rule)."

Absoluty brilliant. Also (in Oh what a thangled web):

Brahms: "We live in a detached house"

Harman: "That's only the broke down all the houses round it."

[Jug Ears]

I voted for Mr. Mash, great character :P

[Mrs Featherstone]

I also liked both Mr Mash and Mr Harmon, but on balance went for Mr Harmon. I've seen Arthur English in many programmes over the years, and always liked the way he played his roles.

I note a lot of support for Mr Mash, which indicates that most people liked both characters.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I loved the Mash character and never really like Harman. But as time went by, we got more of a glimpse of Harman and I guess I've kind of accepted him (a little). :lol:

[Lucas The Tucas]

MMMMM________Greg wrote... I loved the Mash character and never really like Harman.

I saw where you had posted here and I thought that you had switch to Harman.

:lol: :lol:

Lucas

[sonosun]

When I staarted watching AYBS? all of the epsodes that I saw for the first couple of years had Harman in them and no Mash. When I first saw Mash I thought he was the new guy. I like both characters very much and can say a lot of nice things aobut each. I tend o favor harman though. :hat:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

MMMMM________Greg wrote... I loved the Mash character and never really like Harman.

I saw where you had posted here and I thought that you had switch to Harman.

:lol: :lol:

Lucas

Mash was what he was and I guess Harman was too. Just never got into Harman's character. I thought he was too loud and his acting was too over the top.

[Bangers&MrMash]

I'll give you three guesses who I voted for, and the first two don't count.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Would it be Mr. Mash ???? :lol:

[Tiddles]

It's a touch choice but I voted for Mr. Harman.

By the way, I heard that Arthur English published an autobiography shortly before he died. Has anyone read it? :shrug:

No but if anyone has an info on it it would be very much appreciated !!!!... it's one that I would read !!!http://lordgreg.minki.net/thumbup.gif

How soon they forget..... :cry: http://www.minki.net/aybsforum/viewtopic.php?highlight=arthur+english&t=495

[Bangers&MrMash]

That better be a good book for 171 pages at 25 bucks. One of the three Amazon used sellers that offer it want over 80.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

:o

[Goldie]

bumping this up for the newbies.. :saludando:

[Evey]

Thanks Goldie :hat:
i had to vote for Mr Harman, he has such great lines and a I personally felt he fitted better with the other characters

'Has Mrs Slocombe got size 40 knickers?!':lol:

[Dear_Sexy_Knickers]

it's telling me I already voted in this, and knowing that must have been quite some time ago, I am sure I voted for Mr. Harman.
However, I'd have to agree with many when I say that the more I watch Mr. Mash, the more he grows on me.
I like them both for their own reasons. Mr. Harman was more a part of the group, :gambling: (although he never totally abandoned his "bruvvas," such as the canteen staff)
whereas Mr. Mash had the sharper tongue which really cracked me up.
They both were funny, I'd still probably pick Mr. Harman, but It doesn't make me like Mr. Mash any less. :mashhead:

[Captain Peacock's Carnation]

I enjoyed them both but Mr. Mash gets my vote on two counts. First he reminds me of a guy I used to work with and second I'm a huge Mae West fan:camp:

[offthefloor]

i honestly like aspects of both of these characters. mash had great one liners and the jokes about mae west, while crass, never failed to make be howl with laughter. but i love how harman got character development that mash never had and how harman became a full fledged member whom the others, even though they refuse to admit it , must havre respected and maybe even liked. i honestly don't know how i could choose

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

:mashhead:"I rock !!!!!"

[SamuelCrawford]

Well, Arthur English looked alot like my late grandfather so I'm biased but I preferred Mr Harman to Mr Mash. I though Harman was a more gentle than Mash and I thought he fitted into the team - by which I mean the original Grainger cast - with more ease than Mr Mash did.

[Sir Humphries]

I'm a Mr. Mash fan. Plain and simple. I never took too well to Mr. Harman for some reason. I think it was Mr. Mash's uncouth style that got me laughing more. And I think I've met one or two people that reminded of him.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I'm a Mr. Mash fan. Plain and simple. I never took too well to Mr. Harman for some reason. I think it was Mr. Mash's uncouth style that got me laughing more. And I think I've met one or two people that reminded of him.

You tell 'em, Bruvver Humphries !!!

[girlfriendofmrlucas]

I like Mr. Mash's song with his buckets in "The Hand of Fate". "Brother Slocombe". At First, Mr. Harman didnt seem like a janitor, but I got used to him. I voted for Harman because he was around longer

[Sir Humphries]

I like Mr. Mash's song with his buckets in "The Hand of Fate". "Brother Slocombe". At First, Mr. Harman didnt seem like a janitor, but I got used to him. I voted for Harman because he was around longer


That's one of the things that eventually began to bug me about Mr. Harman. Almost every time he came on, he would start singing.

After a while I got sick of "A rollin' 'round the world, lookin' for the sunshine..."

When he would sing something else, I'd go, "FINALLY!!"

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I hated the beginning of "By Appointment" when he's singing "Stranger in Paradise" as he's dragging off the dummy and then the dummy falls as Harman is going off the screen.

[Ms. Laurie]

I liked Mr. Mash. He had that total rebellion against authority and the establishment. Mr. Harmon had some feisty moments, but never as must as Mash did.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Another time I hated Harman was in "Happy Returns" when he kept screaming at the luncheon and banging that sodding ladle on the the table.

[sueschmitt]

And here I thought I was being clever in making a poll on this very question. I should have known you guys would be one up on me. Dean very kindly pointed out that there was a poll already out there so please ignore mine.

Now as to this dilemma. Mr. Harmon definately was better I thought. He was so totally obnoxious at times and I adored him. Mr. Mash was good too but not as good as Mr. Harmon for me.

[sonosun]

As I am sure everyone knows there is a lot of informationon on this board. If you change pages to see posts from the past you will see the new posts at the top of the page .Just scroll down for the older posts.

Harman was the first of the Packing and Maintenance men I saw on the show. He was not as common as Mr Mash and he had a very different outlook on life.
I think Mr Mash was great too. He had some very funny lines.

[honeydaze]

Mr. Harmon all the way;)

[frankdicer]

Everyone has their opinion about who was better, few would call it a tie.
I remember that Mash seemed equally at ease bashing the floor staff and the management.
in a classic blue collar vs white collar way. He did like the men's department better than
the ladies. I think he viewed them (the woman) as interlopers.
THen you have Harman. He was more amicable toward the floor staff, and was only really at odds with Peacock, cause he had Rumbold in his back pocket and Mr. Grace too, to a degree. He worked at making himself irreplacable. I started off liking Harman better, but now
find Mash at least as good if not better.

[girlfriendofmrlucas]

Okay, I absolutly adore both, but since Mr. Mash looks like the underdog, I'll vote him.

[sonosun]

Mr harman is really walloping Mash,I mean Mr Mash. Probably because Mr Harman was in our eyes more than Mr Mash. Mr Harman was in way more episodes than Mr Mash.:)

[adamclark83]

I'd say I like Harman more than Mash, and apparently so did the characters in the show. I always wondered how Arthur remembered all those long lines.

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

Mash was kinda the underdog. Harman did (as much as the staff didn't want to admit it) get along with the uppers whereas Mash didn't. He wanted to but never fit in. Maybe that's the reason I like Mash better ??

[sonosun]

I'd say I like Harman more than Mash, and apparently so did the characters in the show. I always wondered how Arthur remembered all those long lines.

Arthur English did a one man show for a long time. AYBS? must have been a vacation after that.

[sonosun]

Arthur English did a one man show for a long time. AYBS? must have been a vacation after that.

We seem to have broken out in a rash . I mean started to have a discussion about the two Union Stewards and Packing and Maintanence Personnel. So I bumped this up .Have fun.:)

[Mr Ernest Grainger]

I like them both. :thinking: :harman01::mashhead:


Sometimes I like one better than the other. :shrug:

EG :graingerhead:

[Lucas The Tucas]

I like-um both.

But, I like Mr. :mashhead: the Best. :):wine:


:lucas01:

[minki]

I like-um both.

But, I like Mr. :mashhead: the Best. :):wine:



I have to agree.

[blakey]

mr harmon had one or two good moments, but mash is best! larry martyn was always great, i think i like him because he was also in on the buses :)

[Mr. Belfridge]

Mash Rules.

[sonosun]

I really like Mr Mash's chutzpah, but then he was always more rude than Mr Harman who was very quick witted. I started out likeing Harman best ,but now I am neither one way or the other.:lol:

[Lucas The Tucas]

MMMMM _______ Sonosun


I see that no-one, put up a strand of barb-wire on top of your fence.


Or you wouldn't still be sitting there. :lol:



:lucas01:

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

MMMMM _______ Sonosun


I see that no-one, put up a strand of barb-wire on top of your fence.


Or you wouldn't still be sitting there. :lol:



:lucas01:

:lol:

[sonosun]

A little barb-wire wouldn't hurt . I am prepared for that. I have some cast-iron Y-Fronts.

[Lucas The Tucas]

Go ahead and sit on it now .... Sonosun.


I plug in the electric fence charger to it. :lol:



:lucas01:

[sonosun]

Go ahead and sit on it now .... Sonosun.


I plug in the electric fence charger to it. :lol:


That might save me a trip to the Loo.

[Peanut]

I am going to have to think long and hard about this one. Mash was the original and I loved the way he basically stuck two fingers up to Peacock. He didn't care, always had a smart answer. Harmond was more of a gentleman who had a lot more manners. They both had great lines in the show. Nope can't answer this one yet. Will have to come back to it.

[Lucas The Tucas]

MMMMM _______ Well Peanut !

There must not be any Barb Wire Fences, in Aberdeen. :D



:lucas01:

[Peanut]

Ouch my bum :lol:

No, I have come to my decision. I am going to vote for Mr Mash

[Fun Time Freddy]

ok ... at the risk of being branded a Harmon hater[because Im not ya know-except for secretly] its Mash all the way baby! er...Mr. Mash I ment to say.. the man was a perfect blend of Lt. Columbo and Igor from the Frankenstein Movies. The birds were crazy about him- and if a floorwalker even looked sideways at him it, was a one way lift ride! Need we be reminded who it was brought us Pussy Boots?

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

ok ... at the risk of being branded a Harmon hater[because Im not ya know-except for secretly] its Mash all the way baby! er...Mr. Mash I ment to say.. the man was a perfect blend of Lt. Columbo and Igor from the Frankenstein Movies. The birds were crazy about him- and if a floorwalker even looked sideways at him it, was a one way lift ride! Need we be reminded who it was brought us Pussy Boots?

From a fellow "Harman Hater" you get a Amen Bruvver !!!

[Lucas The Tucas]

:thumbup: :thumbup:



:thinking: MMMM_____Wibby, make that a Mr. Mash, liker.


:lucas01:

Ps .... And he's not sitting on the fence.

[larsen525]

As a union steward IRL, Mr. Mash is a great inspiration to me. ;)

- Erik


:mashhead:: "Are you suggesting that there's no room for discussion and a helpful exchange of views?"

:rumbhead:: "Precisely. The management stands firm behind its agreement of 1928."

:mashhead:: "Then GET STUFFED!!!"

[Greg WibblyWobbly]

I have to say this ....

Just watched "Happy Returns" and I cannot express how much I wished Rumbold would have gotton up and smashed Harman in the face when he did that "white collar/blue collar" bit. Then when it got to the birthday lunch and Harman was yelling and banging that spoon, I was hoping that the nurse would have given him a lethal injection of morphine or something.

God I hate that character .... :roll: